[Sunbeam Talbot Email List] British Invasion, Stowe, VT and Ethanol in Fu...
alpine3 at tiscali.co.uk
alpine3 at tiscali.co.uk
Fri Sep 26 06:20:42 EDT 2014
Here we go again folks, (this could run for weeks). Some folks in the
UK have found that fitting an electric fuel pump (3-5 psi) at the rear
near the tank will improve things with ethanol fuel. The theory is
ethanol evaporates quicker than old fuel in the lines near the hot
engine,causing the fuel pump to suck vapour, an electric pump will
pressurise and raise the evaporation point , like fitting a pressure
cap to a radiator to increase the boiling point of water, insulating
fuel lines also helps. Mike's thicker gasket will have spaced the pump
away from the camshaft, reducing the actuation of the pump arm and
reducing the amount of fuel available.
I hope this might help someone.
From: knoche at bigpond.com
To: "Dan Gooding"<degooding at suddenlinkmail.com>,
"CotaLymepond at aol.com"<CotaLymepond at aol.com>, <staowners at sunbeamtalbot.
Subj: Re: [Sunbeam Talbot Email List] British Invasion, Stowe, VT
and Ethanol in Fu...
Another issue could be fuel pressure.
Recently to eliminate an oil leak between pump and block we had a new
installed (made one up out of thick rubberised cork) and the car
barely pull up a medium suburban hill. Reread the workshop manual
that pressure can be reduced by adding gaskets, so removed
said item and
went very thin. Car now runs a lot better and actually
starts first go after
long periods (more than a week) of being unused,
and does not require
downchanges on hills.
In relation to speed I do
recall on a rally many years ago in country South
down at the speedo and being shocked to see it was showing
it does read low) needless to say I slowed considerably.
after contemplating it for the past 3 years we have entered the
in the Melbourne Motorclassica Auction.
Having had 29 years of
pleasure from her we are just not using her enough,
due to travel and
If she sells there will be regrets but hopefully
others will get more use,
if not then we just have to start driving
The following link will get to our car, and enable you to access
(expensive) list of cars on offer.
On 26/09/2014 1:40 am,
"Dan Gooding" <degooding at suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> Okay Thanks
Steve. We will try that out this evening if I can work it in.
to a banquet tonight. I¹ll let you know what happens. Oh, do you
> what RPM we should see the engine attain at full throttle in
neutral? I can
> look it up in the service manual but thought you
might recall without looking
> it up.
> As to pinging, STP stops
that and the guy who works on my car most of the time
> attributed that
to unleaded gas in this old engine. I always run to top
> grade, but
it contains 10% corn alcohol regardless, of course.
> What do you
think about the other gasoline additives such as the Casterol that
was suggested early on to Bob? Guess we have that here in America,
> it is an American brand.
> The spark is advanced some to
help compensate for the ethanol, BTW.
Staowners [mailto:staowners-bounces at sunbeamtalbot.info] On Behalf Of
CotaLymepond at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:16 AM
To: staowners at sunbeamtalbot.info
> Subject: Re: [Sunbeam Talbot Email
List] British Invasion, Stowe, VT and
> Ethanol in Fu...
> I will bet that Dave is on the right track, These
cars by their very design
> are susceptible to reduced travel in the
throttle linkage. They have a weak
> link in the throttle pedal below
the floor that can bend or break over time.
> (I know, I'm the guy that
welded Dave's pedal on the Vermont trip) To test
> this, have an
assistant sit in the car and hold the go pedal to the floor,
> then see
if you can manually open the throttle at the carb any further by
hand, also make sure that the butterfly is completely open. If not,
> at the pedal / linkage and the needed repair should be
> Also I would add that if you are experiencing "Pinging"
under load while
> using Hi-Test gas, with or without ethanol that the
spark timing may need
> ( does the engine ever "kick
back" against the starter when cranking it over?
> either that
or it's possible you have some serious carbon deposits on your
cylinder head. Many owners books of that era listed "decarbonizing" as
> regular maintenance issue. Maybe Martin can advise us further on
> Keep us posted
> <> Steve Cota <>
In a message dated 9/25/2014 3:12:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
alpine3 at tiscali.co.uk writes:
>> Here's another simple check, take a
look at the carpets, make sure the
>> gas pedal can travel to the stop.
>> ----Original Message----
>> reinadesigns at aol.com
Date: 25/09/2014 4:15
>> <staowners at sunbeamtalbot.info>
Subj: [Sunbeam Talbot Email List]
>> British Invasion, Stowe, VT and
Ethanol in Fuel (long rant)
>> Hi Dan,
>> Martin mentioned
something that happened on my Alpine at one time. I
>> was following a
friend in a later series Alpine on the interstate going
>> to a show
several hundred miles away. He mentioned that I was driving
slow. We later realized that my throttle cable wasn¹t opening
carb butterfly all the way. This was the same car that I just
to Michigan and back last week and after fixing that problem the
goes much faster.
>> Thats an easy one to check. Extra plush rugs
>> can also cause limited accelerator travel.
>> Another cause of
>> throttle is the pedal sheet metal being bent. I had that
>> my drophead during a trip to Vermont. (The trip when I
first met Bob)
>> The pedal is sort of an Achilles heal of the car.
Its made of sheet
>> metal and it does bend. I had the pedal break off
completely when we
>> took the Alpine to a show in Daytona, FL. That
was a MacGiver moment
>> to get the car to a persons house with a
>> Thats a very likely
>> source of your limited top speed.
>> I also found on this trip that my
>> speedo is reading 10 mph
below my actual speed. I downloaded an app
>> for my iPhone which
tells you your speed and at highway speeds my car
>> was 10 mph off.
Its a nice app to verify if the speedo is working
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