[Sunbeam Talbot Email List] transporting a beam,
George Simpson - Forums
george.simpson.forums at neuf.fr
Tue Jul 1 14:06:53 EDT 2008
Steve - I take your point about the need to be secured against
emergencies, not just travelling and the next time I tow, I will use 4
ratcheted tie-downs - 2 tons breaking strain each. However, I feel that
tying down around the tyres of the wheels is as good as chaining or
tying down to a part of the axle. The tie-downs, when ratcheted up,
actually bite into the tyres and those wheels are going nowhere if each
"corner" is tied down. Using this X method is the same as passing the
ties through the "spokes" of a modern car wheel - probably safer as if
only one "spoke" has all the strain, it might break - and if the loop
around the top is kept in the top third of the wheel's diameter, there's
no danger of pinching brake lines.
As my father said when he taught me to drive back in 1952 ".....it's
always the other buggers you've got to look out for ...."
Cheers
George
Sweltering in Cognac
CotaLymepond at aol.com wrote:
> Greetings All
> Over the years I have seen some particularly scary transportation
> methods, and not always from amateurs.
> The problem is that people tie down a car and move it, have no
> problems and think that that means it was properly attached . If you
> put a car on a trailer, set the parking brake, and drive very
> carefully, you could take it across the country with no tie down's on
> it at all and it would still be on the trailer when you got to your
> destination. (that does not mean it would be a safe trip) We do not
> wear seat belts to keep our butts in the seat while we drive, we wear
> them in case something goes wrong. Same thing with tie downs The idea
> is to tie the car down so that it will stay on the trailer in the
> event that you're involved in an accident.
> Which includes a blown tire, (trailer or tow vehicle) drifting off the
> edge of the road, or a jackknife situation.
> The best method is to use four ratchet straps, one at each corner. the
> best attachment location is a spot on the lower control arms or the
> drive axle. This allows the car to move on it's suspension when you go
> over bumps without creating slack in the tie downs, Which is what
> would happen if the straps were attached to the frame or the bumpers.
> As the car bounces on it's springs, the straps would be jerked tight
> and loose against the frame as it moves up and down. For newer cars
> that have nothing to hook to underneath (Porsche's etc.) the method
> used is to pass a strap through the slots in the wheel and tie the
> tire down. This keeps the wheels firmly tied down and allows
> the suspension to bounce around at will. this method doesn't work on
> Sunbeam's as there are no slots in the wheels to pass a strap through.
> The problem with just looping a strap around a wheel in an X is that
> there is nothing to keep the vehicle from sliding around if things get
> scary. I have also seen many brake lines pinched flat from having a
> chain wrapped around the rear axle. be careful when locating straps so
> as not to chafe the straps or do damage to the car itself.
> And Never trailer a car on an open trailer with a car cover or a tarp
> over it.
> The cover will flap in the wind and scuff the paint.
> I once took delivery of a model A Ford that had been trucked about
> 1000 miles with an expensive car cover on it. The entire back portion
> of the cover had disintegrated from flapping in the wind and had worn
> right through the paint on the rear corners of the body right down to
> bare metal.
> As always the best advise is just to use good old common sense.
> Happy Trails <> Steve Cota <>
>
> In a message dated 7/1/2008 7:23:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> rhughes at actewagl.net.au writes:
>
> Our car club has its own trailer that we members borrow - a twin
> axle job.
> After positioning the car on the trailer so that there is a slight
> downforce
> (100 pounds sounds fine) on the towball, and then ensuring the
> parking brake
> is on and car in gear, I use a heavy duty chain around the rear
> axle to
> secure the car to the back of the trailer (greatest force is
> encountered
> when braking). Then I use two ratchet tiedowns at the front to
> 'tension up'
> the load. My last tow was 400 miles and the car didn't shift an
> inch -
> relative to the trailer. It did make the 400 miles home :-).
>
> Cheers, Vic
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Simpson - Forums" <george.simpson.forums at neuf.fr>
> To: <wes.stewart at sunbeamsaloon.com>
> Cc: <staowners at sunbeamtalbot.info>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sunbeam Talbot Email List] transporting a beam,
>
>
> > My last tow was over 500 miles in a day and I tow on a flat bed
> trailer
> > with twin axles under the platform. I don't even have the bolt-down
> > chocks for the wheels and just use two ratcheted tie downs for
> the front
> > wheels. I pass the tie-down heavy canvas band behind the top of the
> > wheel and then cross it over at the front so that at the front
> of the
> > wheel it looks like a big X with about 8 feet between the tie-down
> > attachment points on each side. With my wing (fender) mirrors, I can
> > check constantly that the rear wheels have not moved and, of course,
> > check about every 200 miles that all tie downs etc are in place
> and tight.
> > Your set up seems more than adequate. As always, look for about
> 100 lbs
> > on the tow ball.
> > Cheers
> > George
> >
> > wes.stewart at sunbeamsaloon.com wrote:
> > > When I go to Galveston to collect "the beam", I will be taking
> my 22ft
> car hauler trailer so as to flat tow the car back home. I have
> tie-down
> rings at front and rear, and an adjustable wheel stop (4x4) that
> straps down
> to push the front wheels against. I tow my Austin 1100 and Riley
> Elf with
> ease and use 4 ratcheted tie-downs: one for each corner.
> > >
> > > Are there any particularly good or bad tie-down points on the
> car. With
> a nice heavy-duty frame it would seem pretty much anything goes, but I
> thought I would check with the "experience" pool.
> > > WES
> > > Fate, TX
>
>
>
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