[Staowners] Number plate lamp

George Simpson - Forums george.simpson.forums at neuf.fr
Mon Feb 25 02:46:51 EST 2008


I'll go along with Mal as concerns the Mk 1 Alpine.  I still have the 
white glass rear light lens with the red dome over the stop/tail bulb. 
The reverse light bulb socket now has orange 21W bulbs for  indicator 
lights.

My central lens is probably the original and shows Sunbeam with no 
reverse light sections/bulb holder. The maroon had faded and the whole 
plastic lens was white so I 'borrowed' an appropriate colour of nail 
varnish from Management and repainted inside, leaving the Sunbeam 
letters unpainted - it looks great.

Had a great 100 km run yesterday in the sunshine of the Charente - 
keeping to country lanes, we saw very few other cars. The cleaned tank 
performed 'comme il faut'.

George
Cognac

Mal Clark wrote:
> Hi Richard,I would say Bamforth's have supplied you a MK3 lens with the back 
> up light feature,with SUNBEAM on the lens,you need the plain,SUNBEAM lens 
> which they have,Back up lights were certainly fitted there for the MK3 
> Talbots and Alpine,unlike earlier Right hand drive Sedans and MK1 Alpines 
> that were in the rear park lamp,which had the Red dome inside for the 
> Stop/tail globe leaving the other (Reverse globe) to illuminate through the 
> outer White lens, good luck Mal Clark.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Pope" <rpope at waterstone-env.com>
> To: "Richard Fritz" <wizzzbang at verizon.net>; "Bill Molloy" 
> <nqtraderman at yahoo.com>; <staowners at sunbeamtalbot.info>
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Staowners] Number plate lamp
>
>
>   
>> FYI: Both of my USA model 1953 STAs had the style of lens that Richard
>> mentioned below: "SUNBEAM" on it, without the back up light feature.
>>
>> California Bob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: staowners-bounces at sunbeamtalbot.info
>> [mailto:staowners-bounces at sunbeamtalbot.info] On Behalf Of Richard Fritz
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:25 PM
>> To: 'Bill Molloy'; staowners at sunbeamtalbot.info
>> Subject: [Staowners] Number plate lamp
>>
>> Bill...  Interesting topic.  I just completed some research on the
>> license
>> plate lens for the 1953 Alpine Mk1.   In my 15 year search for that
>> special
>> Mk1, I saw many Alpines in various states of repair and modification.  I
>> took pictures of Mk1 and Mk3 cars or copies the images from the sales
>> information.  I use these photos for reference purposes, which is how I
>> came
>> to the following determination:  All the photographs of 1953 Alpines
>> show a
>> maroon lens with white lettering.  The lens has "SUNBEAM" on it and does
>> not
>> have the back up light feature.
>> I ordered a new license plate lens from Sunbeam Talbot Spares in England
>> (Bamforths) from a Buy It Now eBay auction.  The lens I received had the
>> back up light feature and would not fit the chrome surround for the lens
>> from my car.  Bamforths gladly agreed to an exchange and clearly stated
>> that
>> the back up lenses were on Sunbeam Talbots not Alpines.
>> I hope this is helpful.
>> Richard Fritz
>> Nazareth, PA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: staowners-bounces at sunbeamtalbot.info
>> [mailto:staowners-bounces at sunbeamtalbot.info] On Behalf Of Bill Molloy
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:04 AM
>> To: staowners at sunbeamtalbot.info
>> Subject: [Staowners] Number plate lamp
>>
>> I always thought that Alpines just had the Sunbeam
>> logo on the
>> rear number plate lamp assembly, but looking at the
>> Parts Manual
>> I might be wrong.
>>
>> Parts Manual Page 158 Plate E shows the two styles
>>
>> Item 106 with "Sunbeam Talbot" logo is listed under
>> the section
>> Side, Roof and Rear Lamps (Mk 11, 11A & Alpine)
>>
>> Item 130 with "Sunbeam" logo is listed under the
>> section
>> Side, Roof and Rear Lamps (Mk 111)
>>
>> So what style did an Alpine Mk1 have?
>>
>> To me it looks like the book is saying the one with
>> the
>> "Sunbeam Talbot" logo
>>
>> Is this right ?
>>
>>
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